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Highlights from the Michelle McPhee radio show featuring Patrick Day

11 Jun

(Thank you ms.p for bringing the link over from FaceBook)

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Michelle McPhee

I finally got a chance to listen to this whole clip today.  I transcribed most of it, but not all.  There are some parts where Michelle and Patrick were solely discussing the CCS and its funding that I left out. There were a few interesting tidbits…

MM: We welcome Patrick Day to the show. Welcome to the Michelle McPhee show. Thank you for being patient with us today.

PD: Thank you for having me and that’s no problem. I’m glad that you can take some time and talk about the cold case squad and the issue and Ayla’s case and the sad fact is Ayla’s case is not the only case…

We have poor Ayla Reynolds, 20 months old from Waterville, we have little 8 month old Aisha Dickinson from Bangor Maine that was 8 months old and every bone in her body was broken and 3 people in the house and nobody arrested.

MM: It’s astonishing. And with the Ayla Reynolds case I remember Steve McCausland telling me, and he caused a big bru-ha-ha over this, that we are hopeful that Ayla’s coming home.  Her Mom is not so hopeful, evidence in the house would suggest that’s never going to happen and the police actions certainly confirm that they were looking for a body not a missing little girl. And now it’s clear that my reporting has come, been confirmed, sad as that reporting is, and you never want to, look you’re talking about a beautiful little 20 month old girl so you certainly don’t want the story to be accurate but the story is 100% accurate and this little girl has yet to come home.

PD: And no one is held responsible for it in any of these cases. You know, they go for years and years and years and no one is ever held responsible. And when 3 adults are in a house and a 20 month old baby disappears somebody should be held responsible

MM: And when 2 of the 3 adults fail a lie detector test that should be an indicator that something went wrong that night, when police evidence cameras pick up a large amount of blood splatter that would be another indicator that she didn’t wander off in her pj’s.

PD: Right. And that’s why we want the Cold Case Squad in Maine so desperately, for all the other kids.  You’ve got Jenna Crabtree down in Windham Maine that was 3 years old and she was beaten to death as well and just her mother and father were in the house, I mean, this is a repeated occurrence throughout some of these cases is that one or two people were around but yet there’s nobody being held responsible and no arrests made.  The question is why?

MM: The question is why and here’s an even bigger question because when you consider the cost, it’s almost nothing to create a cold case squad…

PD: …because it’s about justice and getting killers off our streets.

MM: Somebody out there killed that little girl, we all know it, and that person is still walking among us so that’s why a cold case squad is so critically important. What is the latest on the Ayla Reynolds case?  GQ just do me a favor and Google Ayla Reynolds and get me some sound. There’s a video, it’s heartbreaking absolutely heartbreaking, of this little girl playing and she’s beautiful. So Patrick Day’s calling us and he’s been a big force behind making sure there’s a cold case squad primarily for Ayla Reynolds but for so many other victims. I mean, where does that case stand right now?

PD: As far as I know the case is stale. They really have nothing, they’re waiting for somebody to come forward and tell something that they know and so we constantly ask people on our website, on our Facebook page, on our Twitter account, we’re constantly saying Look – there were 3 people in that house and they have friends and somebody knows something and so we challenge people.  With all the cold cases, somebody knows something. And whether you’re not talking out of fear, whether you’re not talking out of shame, whatever it is just do the right thing and stand up and say something.  Give Ayla, give every victim, the dignity of being buried and having their family grieve over them and being able to say goodbye and not have to wait and suffer and go on like this.  This is shameful and I know that she was even the fact that she was taken to her Dad’s and that whole process was messed up and with the DHHS…

MM:  Now let’s be abundantly clear, no one has been charged in this case with the disappearance of Ayla Reynolds who was last seen at her father’s house in Waterville Maine on December 17th just days before Christmas.  She was wearing her little pj’s.  No one’s ever seen her again.  We do know there was large blood splatters found in the room where she was sleeping, we do know that the father and his girlfriend did not pass lie detector tests according to my police sources and that I know you probably have information that’s more updated, that’s accurate.

PD: Yup.  Yup.  And that’s it.  You know if people …and it’s hard to justify not making an arrest and I know the police department have their reasons and I don’t understand them, I’m not in law enforcement, I’ve never been in law enforcement.  I was a butler for 22 years so my mentality to this whole thing is way different.  My view point is, you know what, if they’re in a house alone with a kid and the kids dead, take em all to jail. That’s, you know, I understand that that’s not necessarily reality but my old man in me says you know what, they’re all guilty so take em all to jail and let them rot there until they decide to come forward.  And ya know, maybe we need to make some changes in our laws so that that can happen. There’s many questions as to the Ayla Reynolds case and why it’s been allowed to go unsolved.  And just like with the other cases I mentioned.

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we do know that the father and his girlfriend did not pass lie detector tests according to my police sources.”

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Does it make more sense to you now why Phoebe and Elisha got a separate attorney? 

We have poor Ayla Reynolds, 20 months old from Waterville, we have little 8 month old Aisha Dickinson from Bangor Maine that was 8 months old and every bone in her body was broken and 3 people in the house and nobody arrested.”

You’ve got Jenna Crabtree down in Windham Maine that was 3 years old and she was beaten to death as well and just her mother and father were in the house, I mean, this is a repeated occurrence throughout some of these cases is that one or two people were around but yet there’s nobody being held responsible and no arrests made.  The question is why?” 

Why, indeed!

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72 responses to “Highlights from the Michelle McPhee radio show featuring Patrick Day

  1. Dee

    June 11, 2015 at 10:11 pm

    Please light a candle for Ayla ❤

    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=ayla

    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=ARAA

    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=WIA

    Also everyone please remember our friends at Ayla’s facebook pages and blogs. Many people are working to keep Ayla on everyone’s minds. Thank you all for the time you devote to Ayla. Keep reading, commenting, sharing and liking. Ayla’s voices won’t be silenced. The truth will come out and Ayla and those who love her will finally have answers and justice.

    https://www.facebook.com/AylaReynoldsLaurieBingham

    https://www.facebook.com/BringBabyAylaAndBabyLisaHome

    http://wheresayla.blogspot.com/

    http://justice4aylareynolds.blogspot.com/

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hope-4-Ayla/12899318392124

     
  2. Karen

    June 11, 2015 at 10:27 pm

    Thank you Dee, so much for doing this. In theses cases with multiple suspects, why don’t they just arrest them all? They know something even if they are not guilty of the act. Maybe some laws need to be changed. Withholding information about a child’s death, anyone’s death/murder should be a major crime. Ayla deserves better. Why is Justin’s freedom worth more than Ayla life?

     
    • Glenda Armandi

      June 12, 2015 at 7:25 pm

      Karen, I am with you on this. Ayla does deserve better, and being denied it is totally against the sacredness of life itself!

       
  3. Lee

    June 11, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    Thank you Dee for this post.

     
  4. mountain mama

    June 11, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    Thank you Dee. I’m curious why LE has said the three are lying if Elisha passed her poly. Maybe she lied after the poly? Could be she didn’t know the truth at the time of the poly but found out later?

     
    • msperidot19

      June 12, 2015 at 1:15 am

      Maybe ED was read as truthful concerning specifics of what happened to Ayla. Maybe she was not present at the time or all the time?

      Their story does not make sense.

      So maybe she is covering on when she last saw Ayla or about when she really was present or not present in the house to alibi JD and CR.

      I also wonder if ED knew things were not okay for Ayla in Justin’s care and did not do anything? How often did ED or PH leave ED’s little one in the care of JD?

       
    • Dee

      June 12, 2015 at 1:12 pm

      Maybe Elisha’s came back as “inconclusive”?

       
  5. msperidot19

    June 12, 2015 at 1:03 am

    Thank you Dee for doing this for all of us. And really it is for caring about Ayla.

    I wonder why there were no arrests early on? I was hoping because they wanted to not have to deal to get Ayla? Meaning they thought they could find Ayla themselves and then could get the maximum for Ayla and the people of Maine. Maybe they believed with three young adults the truth was bound to come out?

    I think it is very possible Justin and peeps were underestimated. They are not regular people. They are very tough, tough hearted selfish people. I actually don’t believe the average person or people could do this and keep all this up.

    But, I still worry that it might be a cover up for the states DHHS’s and LE’s actions and mistakes. So are they waiting to find Ayla to avoid a public trial? Meaning the truth stays hidden and if/when they find Ayla then they could ‘get enough’ justice for Ayla and The People of Maine without exposing everything. If they have Ayla’s body and make arrests, then they come from strength to get a good deal. Also without the expense of a trial.

    I hope Ayla is not fully dependant on a confession .

    I think because of other children dying with known adults present and no one gets charged, the laws must be lacking. Something is wrong!

    I totally agree with what Karen said.

     
  6. Gwen

    June 12, 2015 at 8:33 am

    One thing that sticks out to me is all the lieing about when Ayla went to bed. At one point it was said that she was put to bed I think it was around 8. Then it was said Courtney watch her while Justin made his wine run which made it sound like Ayla was not in her bed at the first time given but in the basement and was put to bed after he arrived home. Sorry I can not remember all the times so if anyone can clear that up please do. I know the police had to check out the place where he bought the wine to make sure his story checked. Is it possible that is when Ayla became missing and that is the reason they do not pass the lie detectors. I also feel Justin do find out Trista filed for custody and his hate for her made it easier to dispose of Ayla.

    Is it also possible that Courtney being so quiet is because Justin knows too much on her family. I know these things have been discuss but with it coming to light who passed and who did not makes me believe Elisha had no part in the disappearance of Ayla but maybe found out latter the details. In the case of poor Caylee there was not enough evidence to point the finger at Casey and I am afraid it is going to happen here. It one thing being here and talking about it but when you are a juror the laws bind you and the District Attorney has to prove it by facts. Nobody came forward putting Casey at the spot where Caylee was found and they could not find the evidence to link her to the body. I always felt they should have never gone after the death penalty in that case and should have had lesser charges because of what was laid out to the jury. In your last post on here was the question on lesser charges and everyone always wants the book throw at whoever is in trial but it had to be concrete evidence to convict someone. Even Ayla broken arm to me would be off limits until sentencing because it did not happen on the day she went missing and could be use for a harsher sentence.

    Sorry for the long post but we all are trying so hard like any person that had morals to make sense of this. Bless Ayla and praying for answers.

     
    • msperidot19

      June 12, 2015 at 11:03 am

      Hi Gwen, you said a lot to think about.

      And I forgot about how they charged Casey.

       
  7. Anonymous

    June 12, 2015 at 8:41 am

    there was blood in the house and on Justin shoes , doesn’t that tie him to a crime?? and his girlfriend didn’t take the lie detector test ,gilt right there

     
    • anna

      June 12, 2015 at 9:30 am

      I thought Courtney did take the lie detector test and failed? I agree that the blood should be enough to make an arrest. It should be enough to arrest all three in the house. There is no way I would not see blood on my couch……..they all had to have seen something.

      Elisha may not have been involved in the cleanup and disposal, but she sure was involved in covering for Courtney, Derek and Justin. There is no way she saw an alive and well Ayla at 10 pm. Ayla may have been in her bead, but was not well.

      I think I do believe that Elisha was looking for Ayla in the morning. Ayla probably ate with her child and she most likely did the morning caregiving. It is horrible for Justin, Courtney and Derek to have pulled another into their crimes.

       
      • Dee

        June 12, 2015 at 1:31 pm

        Yes Anna, McCausland said those in the home that night took lie detector tests and “they know how they did.”

         
  8. anna

    June 12, 2015 at 9:31 am

    I am hoping that the extra arrests and pressure on Courtney’s family and friends is because the police are watching them because they know it is a link to find Ayla. If the people in Courtney’s family are all arrested for their crimes, there is no more reason for her to lie to help Justin.

     
  9. Karen

    June 12, 2015 at 11:35 am

    They should give a jury options of punishment in each case. I think I read they were doing that in Holly Bobos case.
    And I agree with Anna that blood the size of a silver dollar on a couch should be noticed if much time with the light on was spent in a room. And on the mattress down stairs? If Elisha came home late and snuck into a dark room to grab what her daughter needed, I can give her a pass on thinking Ayla was in her bed. But the next morning, noticing Ayla was gone and looking around, she should have seen the blood. And she must have noticed odd behavior.
    Elisha, y’all did something that was very wrong.

     
    • Dee

      June 12, 2015 at 1:52 pm

      Karen

      From TC4A:

      • Ayla’s blood splatter was found on a plastic blue tote in the basement and a sheet that was found inside had Ayla’s blood stains on it. MSP said that it had been used to cleanup Ayla’s blood.

      • A “fist size stain” of Ayla’s blood was found on Justin’s mattress and sheets. This sample contained saliva, possibly vomit, and “a toy hair like” pink fiber which, at the time, MSP had not identified.

      I think it’s possible Elisha didn’t see blood. If whoever was caring for Ayla stripped the bed and changed the sheets the blood on the bed would not have been visible.
      It doesn’t say those sheets were ON the bed, I always just assumed they were.

      • A “silver dollar sized stain” of Ayla’s blood was found on the sofa in the DiPietro family’s living room (upstairs).

      What if the person, in a hurry, instead of trying to clean blood up simply flipped over the cushion to hide it. I wouldn’t notice it if that happened.

      • Ayla’s blood was found smeared on her baby doll’s face and arms in the bedroom she shared with Elisha DiPietro’s daughter (upstairs). It appeared that Ayla tried to wipe blood from her mouth with her doll.

      This would be hard to not notice unless the doll was found under the bed or something.

      I’m not giving Elisha a pass, just trying to think things through again.

       
  10. Dee

    June 12, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    “we do know that the father and his girlfriend did not pass lie detector tests according to my police sources.”

    I believe a police source DID tell Michelle this. We don’t know however exactly what her ” police sources” said to her. They could have just mentioned Justin and Courtney. They could have said they failed and Elisha was inconclusive or Elisha passed.

    MSP has consistently said the three in the home that night are withholding information and aren’t telling the whole story. Elisha and Phoebe obtained their own attorney, separate from Justin. Elisha stood off from the group that morning that they were all being questioned in the driveway. It gave me the impression she was trying to separate herself from them.

    Do you think it’s possible that Elisha was not an active participant in what happened to Ayla and really didn’t know anything at first but came to suspect her brother as the hours went by? I remember a story about Lance getting mad at Elisha for questioning Justin (that was right around the time Justin appeared to have been punched in the face). Could Elisha’s “withholding of information” simply be what she suspects or feels happened but has no proof of?

    What do you think? I’d like others opinions on her.

     
    • mountain mama

      June 12, 2015 at 3:18 pm

      IDK but IMO Elisha has never seemed concerned about Ayla’s safety with an abductor and she doesn’t appear to be doing anything to help bring her home. IMO she knows Ayla is not alive.

       
      • Dee

        June 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm

        Oh, I agree. I think Elisha knows Ayla’s not alive. I’m trying to hash out if she knew immediately or came to that conclusion over the course of time (hours probably, I don’t think it took days).

         
        • mountain mama

          June 12, 2015 at 3:36 pm

          I think in the first hours both Elisha and Phoebe were in the dark.

           
    • Anonymous

      June 12, 2015 at 3:33 pm

      There was also the story that Elisha got home around 10. I think maybe she didn’t know about Ayla until after the fact. But if she knew after and did not speak, then she is still guilty of covering for Justin. I think she is withholding information.

       
      • Anonymous

        June 12, 2015 at 3:57 pm

        I also think Derek has some involvement. I wonder what Heidi knew? Did she do all that talking thinking it was the truth?
        If she knew Ayla was dead would it have been better to stay silent? She was not going to convince law enforcement that there was no blood when there was.

         
  11. primarytchr

    June 12, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    Thank you for this post Dee. I know I don’t comment as often as I used to, but I read all the time.

    This post has given me a lot to think about. I’m wondering if Elisha believes she checked on Ayla, but maybe she just stood in the doorway and thought she saw her in her crib, but Justin/Courtney had stuffed a doll under the covers or something. According to the 911 call, Elisha admitted to checking on Ayla at 10. Elisha would absolutely believe Ayla was there because she “saw” her. Elisha wouldn’t fail her test.

     
    • Anonymous

      June 12, 2015 at 8:37 pm

      Thank you, Dee. Very interesting post. Michelle said that the room Ayla slept in had blood splatter. Where did Ayla sleep? In the basement?
      We know so little about that whole night. No accounts at all as to what any adult did with Ayla. I think it’s because Ayla was killed before that night.
      No one has mentioned Phoebe’s part in all this–her strange alibi– about which the cops said next to nothing. And Phoebe’s alibi witness has said zilch. So where was Phoebe? Did she take a LDT? A simple question. Why or why not ?
      Something is really amiss with this case. Everyone can necked to LE and the DA seem reluctant to press anyone about their lies? Why?

       
      • Anonymous

        June 12, 2015 at 8:40 pm

        Well the I-Pad’s self- correct feature ran amok! Naturally I meant connected and not “can necked” !

         
      • Dee

        June 12, 2015 at 9:49 pm

        That’s a good question anon, why? It seems to be a running theme with MSP. If there’s more than one person involved, no arrest. What is the problem with solving these cases? Do they not have officers who know how to interrogate?

         
    • Dee

      June 13, 2015 at 10:04 am

      Good to hear from you PT.

       
  12. CG

    June 12, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    Justin appears to coax the answer he wants out of Elisha in the 911 call, Then there’s the pic of her standing looking like she’s trying to distance herself in the driveway. Phoebe got her a lawyer just about the time foul play declared/ subpoenas served. Elisha claims she did ok on her poly but won’t say she passed. I think she has had some guilty knowledge all along- JMO- but whether it goes to the heart of the case or not is hard to assess. I have often wondered if she thought she was covering up something far less awful than a death and got hoodwinked.

     
    • Anonymous

      June 12, 2015 at 9:11 pm

      To me, the DiPietros’ and their supporters’ indifference to Ayla in the hands of a supposed abductor/kidnapper says it all. They all know Ayla is dead. So any show of concern for her well being and any attempt to find her is a wasted effort.

       
    • Dee

      June 12, 2015 at 9:50 pm

      I’ve been wondering that too CG.

       
  13. msperidot19

    June 12, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    It does not feel at all a surprise about Courtney. What has she done? What does she know?

    If they were keeping things from Elisha that night or early morning, maybe that helps explain about the degree of poor clean up. If they had to be quiet it might have added to their rush and stress of being heard/caught by Elisha? Or possibly being done before Elisha got home with GD?

    I wonder where Ayla’s doll was found? Was it turned over?

    Where was ARob all night?

    Was ED being used by JD, having her see or think she saw Ayla in her bed that night?

    I don’t know what to think about whether ED knew before or after the 911 call. It is possible, it makes sense they could have used her for a normal reaction to/for the police?

    But, ED now knows for sure what the evidence is. As well as her mother.

    Since ED is the most defensive to the public of the Dipietro’s… maybe she was told something she originally believed or chose to believe, or even possibly bullied into going along all with it all being a understandable accident. Or a panic situation.

    Ayla’s blood splatter is not innocent.

    None of this is innocent or an accident. Did Ayla suffer? What does ED and Pho think really happened? Ayla peacefully passed away while Justin cuddled and cooed her a song. How did Ayla’s blood get splattered? Is Justin sorry so you forgive him?

    Anyone who supports hiding Ayla and the continuation of keeping her hidden is not only a disgusting human being but a real sicko at heart. Every day Ayla stays hidden is another day you chose to wrong her. How many days has it been now? Trista deserves to have her daughter back. Come on, really, no one ca rationalize away what is being done to Trista. You can be callous about it, but we all know she needs Ayla back.

     
  14. anna

    June 13, 2015 at 1:17 am

    I was just thinking about Ayla’s case and a thought struck me pretty hard…….

    When Justin made the 911 call, he already knew what happened to Ayla because anyone in that situation would not just say the child is missing, but immediately report that the other parent stole the child. It is the first thought anyone in a contentious custody situation would have…….but not Justin.

    It makes me positive they did not pre-meditate her “disappearance”. If they did, someone would have pointed out the fact that they needed to report her stolen by Trista. It was not a well-thought out plan. It also should have immediately made the police responding suspicious.

    No, Justin knew Ayla was gone, by his own hand. He didn’t panic and call anyone in Trista’s family to get Ayla returned. He didn’t call 911 to report custody interference. It was too late by the time the Dips realized they needed to blame Trista and her family…….everyone already knew they were lying.

    I wonder if Elisha lets Justin be around her child? Does Phoebe feel safe with Justin around? Would Heidi allow him back in her home after all she knows? Does Derek allow Justin to be alone with his child? I could never feel safe around someone who I knew took another life. I wonder how they do it?

     
    • Anonymous

      June 15, 2015 at 3:31 pm

      Anna, they believe it was an accident, perhaps. So they are willing to trust that with Justin there won’t be another one? Maybe they think or know Courtney is the guilty party. Courtney, if she is the guilty party, she is now out of their lives so they can relax about their children being around Justin..

       
  15. primarytchr

    June 13, 2015 at 7:52 am

    With more consideration. . .

    Even if Elisha believed that she saw Ayla in her bed, with all the evidence that has come to light since then, she’s now in as deep as Courtney and Justin are. She’s had years of opportunity to secure justice for her niece.

    Two of my nieces have gotten married in the last couple of years, the third is getting married in October. I have been privileged to watch them grow up and become the wonderful young women that they are. I cannot imagine letting them down the way Elisha has forsaken Ayla.

     
  16. Karen

    June 13, 2015 at 8:23 am

    I am wondering again, what were Justin and Courtney discussing when he pushed her? Courtney has said next to nothing about Ayla.
    And about Elisha. By the time she said the “we did nothing wrong” thing, she must have know what had really happened in that house.
    Justin took Ayla. She had blood splattered on fan cords, sheets, mattress, couch and doll. What ever (toy?) had the pink fibers must have been so bloody it dissapeared with her.
    You would think, that they know this is not going to be forgotten. And someone did something wrong.

     
  17. msperidot19

    June 13, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    http://m.wyff4.com/news/vigil-held-for-missing-baby-as-new-revelations-in-the-case-are-revealed/33530510

    Snipped:
    The Department of Social Services now has custody of the siblings of missing baby Leaona Wright, according to the Anderson County Sheriff’s Office.

    Officials said they removed a 3-year-old from the home where the child disappeared and also took custody of a 6-year-old who was living with the missing baby’s grandmother.

    On Thursday, deputies said they have been given inconsistent information in the investigation into the disappearance of 1-year-old Leaona.
    —–
    Something is really wrong here. I am glad they removed the children. I don’t think they were safe – at least in the mother’s custody. One child vanished, and suspicios changing stories about what happened.

     
    • CG

      June 13, 2015 at 7:25 pm

      Ms. P, that whole interview is disturbing. The intermittent “mmm-mmm-mmm” sounds are discordant Conducting the interview in front of a young child is horrible. She starts out like she’s talking to a kidnapper asking them to bring her baby back, then, at about 3:31 she says she wants closure! After that, she says “she was never there” a couple of times. She casts aspersion on Travis for the way he was acting but then denies knowledge of how he’s acted. Whew!

       
      • msperidot19

        June 14, 2015 at 2:42 am

        CG, it is all very telling. And now the police are saying the 3 year old did not open the door as a fact along with the mother saying she does not want to talk about that. Another big act about how a child went missing.

        I keep thinking about the woman on the 911 call. She knew right away it all didn’t make sense. And she didn’t like what was happening to the 3 year old.

         
  18. mountain mama

    June 13, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    OT Divers search for Relisha!!!

     
    • Dee

      June 13, 2015 at 1:23 pm

      I hope they finally get some answers on that poor girl.

       
  19. Nina

    June 13, 2015 at 1:23 pm

    I have a suggestion for a post. I had this thought in the middle of the night when I couldn’t sleep:

    Maybe the three in the house weren’t in the house when Ayla disappeared. Maybe they went out to party and left Ayla alone? Maybe something happened while they were gone? Maybe they didn’t want to admit they left her alone?

    That’s not a defense of them, but another possibility.

     
    • Dee

      June 13, 2015 at 1:30 pm

      Hi Nina, hope you are well. I don’t think it is likely but it is a possibility. I’ll see if I can do up a post with that scenario.

       
      • Nina

        June 13, 2015 at 1:43 pm

        Thanks, Dee. I haven’t seen it discussed much if at all, and it just came to me. Could be a junk idea, but it’s new material. : )

         
        • mountain mama

          June 13, 2015 at 1:53 pm

          Thank you Nina and Dee 🙂

           
        • Anonymous

          June 14, 2015 at 1:06 pm

          I think it’s a great idea for a post, Nina. It’s been discussed here and there, but never in depth.

           
      • Anonymous

        June 13, 2015 at 6:27 pm

        This was discussed early on in the case… Ayla perhaps left alone to wander the house looking for an adult with the result that she somehow injured herself. Ayla falling down the basement stairs. I don’t think it has been discussed that Ayla was left alone left alone and was subsequently abducted while the adults were all away. In the first scenario, her body was removed and attempts were made to cover up het accident. In the second theory, if she was abducted, one would think the adults of that family would try to find her.

         
        • Karen

          June 13, 2015 at 8:28 pm

          I remember wondering and reading others thoughts on this. I would not doubt her being left alone. But how does the rest fit into that now? I wonder if the evidence found rules this out?

           
    • mckeekitty

      June 13, 2015 at 9:12 pm

      Foil…Ron Reynolds made this comment on October 3, 2014 on his FB page: “Justin dipietro his sister and ex girlfriend and mother lied about being there that Friday night.”

      Strange comment, eh? So yeah, I think the issue deserves exploring.

      Hope you are well, friend!

       
      • Nina

        June 14, 2015 at 6:15 am

        Hi Kitty. Nice to see you here. Excellent find. I am really curious now.

         
      • Anonymous

        June 14, 2015 at 4:26 pm

        Strange, in that Phobe admitted she lied about being there on that Friday night. Also, strange that no schedule of Ayla’s interaction with any of the adults filtered out into the media or on the social media. For example, Elisha never gave an account of her noticing Ayla in her bed, or covering her. uP, or getting her a drink. None of the others offered any “comfy” stories of the evening with Ayla before “she was taken”.
        But these people do seem to be very cautious of ANY statements about that night.

         
    • mckeekitty

      June 14, 2015 at 8:15 am

      What I find curious? What inspired Ron to post such a comment? How would HE know who was or wasn’t in the home that night? And why was his comment “liked” by two people and yet never challenged or inquired upon? You know. “What do you mean by that comment, Ron?” Wouldn’t that be a reasonable inquiry?

       
      • Nina

        June 14, 2015 at 8:51 am

        Curious, indeed!

         
      • msperidot19

        June 14, 2015 at 2:44 pm

        Did you see this yourself McKee or did you hear about it? TIA if you choose to answer

         
        • mountain mama

          June 14, 2015 at 3:00 pm

          I saw it too MsP.

           
        • mountain mama

          June 14, 2015 at 3:02 pm

          Can you link it McKee? I don’t remember where it was.

           
        • msperidot19

          June 14, 2015 at 3:08 pm

          I saw it too mm. But I cannot remember what was being said on the blogs at the time? I think that there was talk of the posibility of no one being home? Do you remember? I think that is why I didn’t ask him?

          I wonder if McK saw it herself why she didn’t ask about it, if she would not mind sharing. Maybe she didn’t see it herself?

           
        • mountain mama

          June 14, 2015 at 3:37 pm

          If it was on Ron’s page, I’m confusing it with one I saw on Ayla’s Angels page before but I can’t find it now. I haven’t looked at Ron’s page before.

          As far as what we were discussing here at the time, it wouldn’t be related to his comment.

           
        • msperidot19

          June 14, 2015 at 3:45 pm

          I hope this is the right spot.

          OK, maybe I am remembering wrong. I was thinking besides Penny that I had read of that possibility. I know I didn’t ask. But I don’t know why anyone else didn’t. Ron put it out there, so why doesn’t McKee just ask? Or anyone? Maybe we can’t ?

           
    • Anonymous

      June 15, 2015 at 3:35 pm

      One would think someone at the party might reveal to the cops that there was indeed a party and the three attended until a certain hour. Especially if a party-goer heard about the blood in the house.

       
  20. Anonymous

    June 13, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    Lack of Action in Ayla’s case = conflict of interests.

     
    • Karen

      June 13, 2015 at 8:30 pm

      I think many wonder this, anon.

       
      • Anonymous

        June 14, 2015 at 4:27 pm

        I think the DA’s being the legal defender of DHHS is at the heart of the matter.

         
        • msperidot19

          June 14, 2015 at 4:53 pm

          That is a significant fact.

           
  21. msperidot19

    June 14, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    Mm, it is still on Ron’s facebook.

    Maybe no one wanted to ask him why he said that?

     
    • mckeekitty

      June 14, 2015 at 3:43 pm

      MsP. Glad you found it on your own.

      I generally don’t comment on FB pages. I have an account, but I don’t really “do” the FB thing.

       
  22. msperidot19

    June 14, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    I thought I would go back and politely ask Ron if he still believed that and if he had anymore to say about it. But he has not publicly commented since Dec 2014. So I am going to leave him alone.

    I understand the wondering, I wonder myself. Like I said before though, I thought people were talking about that as a posibility?

    I personally think the splatter proves someone hurt Ayla. But if someone knows or thinks differently they should say so. Also the blood in Justin’s shoes? Does that mean something ?

     
    • Anonymous

      June 14, 2015 at 4:34 pm

      What we didn’t discuss in connection with the theory of Ayla being left alone was an abduction whilst she was alone. But then I could not read everything.
      Was that possibility ever discussed by Heidi or the others on TLLOM? I never had access to it after it became a “club”. Nor did I read on the social media unless it was reposted elsewhere.

       

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