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Overwhelming Frustration

13 Jun

where-is-justice-in-americaI think almost everyone wants Ayla’s case solved and those responsible held accountable. It’s beyond frustrating waiting for an arrest with the information we have learned. There are many, many cases where people have hidden the body and refuse to answer LE’s questions. While in most cases a suspect hasn’t been named publicly by LE, it’s been clear who their focus is on. Yet we rarely hear of charges being brought in these cases unless someone starts talking. 

joshua davisJoshua Davis’ case is another one that’s very frustrating.

Here’s a snip from The People’s Champion: The story angers many who have followed the case and has left doubt about the accuracy of what the child’s family told police that night. Baby Joshua some how disappeared while there were 8 adults in the house during the time the tot’s mom says she noticed him missing. Federal, State, Local, and even the Texas Rangers Police Authorities have combed the 2,500 populated trailer home community without obtaining a single clue about what may have happened to the child. Police say there isn’t even evidence to suggest that the child might have been abducted by someone. The Bizarre disappearance of  an 18 month old baby during the winter months has cops thinking the family is directly responsible for what ever happened to the baby. Though the family continuously convey their innocence, they continue to publicly say they believe he is alive. However, the police think otherwise.  Lt. Stephen Hanna of the New Braunfels Police Department says, “The investigators have essentially confronted the family, basically saying that we are fairly certain that something has happened, that their was an accident inside the house and that something happened to the child.”  Hanna also believes that someone is not being honest from that night. Hanna said, “The seven individuals that were in the house that night, one of them or numerous of them know what happened and have been misleading investigators as to what happened to the child.”

Then there’s:

kyronKyron Horman 

lisaLisa Irwin

aliayahAliayah Lundsford

sky
Sky Metalwala 

haileyHailey Dunn

dylan
Dylan Redwine

Aisha Dickson 

And the list goes on and on…

In Aisha’s, Hailey’s and Dylan’s cases, even though their remains or partial remains were found, no one has been charged. How many people are walking around free today, who are responsible for a child’s death, whether or not it was intentional?

I don’t know if there is enough evidence in Ayla’s case for a successful prosecution, there may very well be but few people know for sure. Who knows when or if anyone will be charged? One thing I feel pretty sure of is if the time comes when someone is charged, the prosecution must be fairly confident in a successful outcome. My question is this: If Justin or whoever is responsible is charged in Ayla’s disappearance and at the end of the trial they are acquitted, how will you feel?  There is no right or wrong answer to this question and I’m not sure how to answer it myself. As I said above, I don’t think this case would go to trial unless they were confident of a successful prosecution, but it’s always a possibility no matter how small. 1463911_583003328442716_1938829290_n

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54 responses to “Overwhelming Frustration

  1. Karen

    June 13, 2014 at 10:27 am

    If Ayla’s case goes to trial, and the truth does not come out, I will feel like I did with the Caylee Anthony case. The public was very angry about the out come, so much so, that Casey feared for her life. Living in fear and seclusion must be like a prison as well.
    I wonder if Justin and company feel that way now?
    But if this goes to trial, I think the jury will convict.

     
  2. Anonymous

    June 13, 2014 at 10:34 am

    My feelings will depend on how solid the case really is. If the prosecution can’t convince 12 jurors, they may not convince me, either. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

     
    • mountain mama

      June 13, 2014 at 12:08 pm

      I think if the prosecution did a lousy job I would be very upset or if the prosecution’s case appeared solid but the jury for whatever reason found him not guilty. I wouldn’t want an innocent person convicted but if he is guilty and the evidence wasn’t enough for a conviction, I would be glad they at least tried to get justice for Ayla.

       
  3. Dee

    June 13, 2014 at 10:58 am

    The pics of Sky and Dylan aren’t coming up for me. Is anyone else having this issue or is it just my computer being funky?

     
    • Anonymous

      June 13, 2014 at 11:09 am

      I can’t view them, either.

       
    • Chicky

      June 13, 2014 at 11:14 am

      I can’t see those two photos either Dee.

      It is so sad for these children and those in their families who love and miss them. I keep coming back to, if the blood evidence we have been told about is accurate, why has there not been an arrest or three. Someone will talk to save their own behind, tho they won’t speak for Ayla.

       
      • mountain mama

        June 13, 2014 at 11:31 am

        Sorry all. I can see them on my laptop with Google Chrome browser but I can’t see them on my phone. My internet connection is slow but as soon as I can I’ll remove the pics and add them back to see if that helps. Also if you click on the names below the pics the links take you to information on their cases.

         
      • Dee

        June 13, 2014 at 11:33 am

        Thank you Anon and Chicky. I wasn’t sure if it was just me, my computers been acting up lately.

         
        • mountain mama

          June 13, 2014 at 11:59 am

          I think that worked, I can see them on my phone now. Can everyone see them now?

           
        • Chicky

          June 13, 2014 at 12:05 pm

          I can see them now.

           
        • mountain mama

          June 13, 2014 at 12:08 pm

          😉

           
        • Dee

          June 13, 2014 at 1:09 pm

          Thanks Mama. 🙂

           
  4. CG

    June 13, 2014 at 11:08 am

    From what we know now, it looks like Justin is responsible for what happened to Ayla and that what happened led to a slow, painful death for her. If that impression continued to be the case through trial, it would feel like a terrible injustice for him to be acquitted. However, if the reason for acquittal were proof he didn’t kill Ayla or strong enough indications to create reasonable doubt, then his acquittal would be a positive thing. A conviction is only desirable if they have the right defendant on trial.

     
  5. Dee

    June 13, 2014 at 11:36 am

    That picture of Aliayah gets me every time. I don’t know if that poor girl ever had a happy day in her life. 😦

     
    • Anonymous

      June 13, 2014 at 12:19 pm

      Dee, there is a wonderful story out there posted by a person who witnessed Aliayah receiving a new pair of shoes at a church benefit. I can’t recall the details, but it was said that Aliayah was happy as a lark and proud as a peacock over her new shoes. It makes tears well up just thinking about it.

       
      • CG

        June 13, 2014 at 12:36 pm

        You mean this? There was no confusion whatsoever as to who Aliayah was at the church. I AM the woman who met her and talked to her there. Her brother was there also. The church had a Clothing Give A Way on Saturday, August 20th, from 9 A.M. to 1 P.M, Aliayah, her Mom and brother were there for maybe an hour and a half looking through clothes. That’s the day that she grabbed my heart with those eyes and I fell in love with her. I found a little pink princess shirt and wanted her to take it, but she wouldn’t even touch it until her Mom came and told her it was OK to. I asked her what her name was and I could just understand “Leeah” was what it sounded like she said. I thought she was a very shy little gal. I can honestly say that on that date, there were no bruises ‘showing’. I even made the remark to her Mom that she had angel skin, she is a beautiful little gal. There were 4 of us women in the church at the time, they went up to our pavilion where there were more people and shoes and they found her a little pair of pink plaid tennis shoes. They came back down to the church and Aliayah and her brother each got a cookie and a juicy juice. I will NEVER forget her sitting there taking a bite of cookie and holding that little foot up to admire her new shoes….She smiled that day and that smile was worth more than money could ever buy, I’ll never forget it……Anyway, I don’t want to stick my nose in anywhere, but I just wanted to clear that up. There was no confusion whatsoever, and LE knows all about this sighting. Thanks!

        snipped from http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7355086

         
        • mountain mama

          June 13, 2014 at 12:42 pm

          Oh my…thank you CG and Anon for bringing this to our attention. Now where’s my tissues…

           
        • Anonymous

          June 13, 2014 at 12:49 pm

          Thanks, CG. Same basic story, different telling. What I read was either on Topix or the comment section of one of the WV newspapers.

          Is there anything sweeter than a little girl munching on a cookie admiring her new shoes?

           
        • Dee

          June 13, 2014 at 12:55 pm

          Thank you two, I’m so glad to be made aware of this story. It’s good to know she had moments of pleasure and happiness.

           
      • mountain mama

        June 13, 2014 at 1:02 pm

        There are a few pictures here where she’s smiling. One where it appears she is wearing her birthday cake and another when she’s eating Doritos.
        https://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Aliayah-Lunsford/156048507817784?id=156048507817784&sk=photos_stream

         
        • Dee

          June 13, 2014 at 1:17 pm

          She looks so happy wearing that cake. 🙂

           
    • mountain mama

      June 13, 2014 at 12:40 pm

      Aliayah’s case is close to home for me. It breaks my heart everytime I see her picture. Ralph was arrested in May and many were hoping it would be a stepping stone toward justice for Aliayah. So far nothing though 😦
      http://m.wdtv.com/wdtv.cfm?func=view&section=Fox-10&item=Stepfather-Of-Missing-Weston-Toddler-Arrested-On-Assault-Charges-15874

      The stepfather of a missing Lewis County girl is in some hot water as of Monday night.

      Ralph Keith Lunsford, 44, is charged with assault. A woman told investigators she stopped to talk to a family member on Vadis Road on Friday night, and Lunsford was there. He allegedly started to taunt the woman inside the car. She claims he ripped his shirt and told her to get out of the car as if he wanted to start a fight.

      Lunsford’s stepdaughter, Aliayah, vanished without a trace from her home in September 2011. She was only three years old when she disappeared.

       
      • Anonymous

        June 14, 2014 at 12:14 pm

        Ralph and Lena are something else. I have to wonder how much forensic evidence was lost to the disgusting state of their house.

         
        • mountain mama

          June 14, 2014 at 3:08 pm

          I agree Anon. At least the rest of the kids were removed from that home.

           
  6. Dee

    June 13, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    How I would feel would depend on the quality and abundance of evidence. If Justin, who I believe is responsible, was acquitted I’m sure I’d be disappointed. If there were quality evidence and a solid case presented I might be more than disappointed, I might be really angry. If they went in with so/so evidence I’d understand a jury acquitting and although disappointed would have to accept it. It’s the way our justice system works.

     
  7. mountain mama

    June 13, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    If you click on “the list” link in the post it takes you to the Charley Project. The missing are listed in alphabetical order. There are usually over 300 listed for each letter, over 800 just for the letter “B”. While not all went missing under similar circumstances as the ones I used in the post, many of them do. It’s frightening to think how many dangerous people are free in our country. Most of the victims have loved ones desperate for answers, hoping for a miracle.

     
  8. Pennyauntie

    June 13, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    I am always shaking my head over the fact that Sky Metawala’s nutty mom is still free to pursue what she pursues (at one time she was online trying to entice rich men into her life) and no arrest in sight. Few updates about Sky’s case are ever given to us, here, where the crime happened beyond “It’s an ongoing case so we can’t talk about it.” Yada! We have no sunshine laws.

    We get only that it is “ongoing”. Is that a word for “We’re stumped! We don’t know what to do next, folks! We can’t prosecute because Sky might be alive in Russia! Who knows? We don’t have a video of what happened to Sky, so we can’t go forward with the case! But it is an active investigation!”

    LE in my area have proof that this woman, Sky’s mother, (How I hate to apply the word to her.) lied to investigators about the way in which Sky was supposedly “kidnapped”. (Supposedly, from her car on the side of the road, when she took his sister with her to get gas and leaving Sky alone in the vehicle.)

    The investigators said her car had plenty of gas to get where she told them she was going. She lied about other things and the police have proof that she lied about those other matters….lied about her own child to police when he is “missing”.

    Now, whatever could be her reason for making up stories to explain Sky’s disappearance? No matter, she lawyered up promptly and she’s free as a bird.

    Police feel that Sky probably hadn’t been seen by neighbors perhaps as long as six months before he disappeared in November. She wouldn’t allow Sky’s father to see him. No one can say they saw the little guy since the previous June. Sky’s grandmother backs up her daughter’s stories. Another liar free to go about her business.

    So why no arrest for child endangerment? For the same reasons that Maine prosecutors cannot seem to move ahead in Ayla’s case: no body? Fear that action on lesser charges will spoil a more serious indictment down the road? Maybe a child endangerment charge, with time served, is all we are going to get in child “disappearances” in which a parent is obviously lying about the case.

    The cops seem to have the proof that the DiPietros and Co. lied about their missing child. Why would a parent lie about it or allow others to lie about the disappearance of your own child? The only reason I can think of is guilt in the “taking” of your own child, or the guilt of someone you want to protect from the consequences of their bad choices. (I want to say “evil” choices, but evidently evil is not a sanctioned word in our society, nowadays.)

    I think Maine prosecutors do not want to proceed without a body. I don’t think any of the DiPietros are sitting around listening to a “tick, tick, tick” and fearing a knock on the door, “Hey, we found Ayla. Prepare to eat your last meal at home!”.

    Nope, I think they know that the cops just do not have and will not have enough evidence to convict without a body. Or even with a body. Perhaps they do feel the weight of some public opinion against them, now. But they also know that people have short memories. People who do know some facts may not be aware of the importance of those facts and do not speak. Others who have direct knowledge of what happened are involved or loyal to the adults in the case thinking that it was an accident..

    I kind of wonder why people think Ayden and Gabby will suffer because of their familys’ poor decisions. I don’t have a good opinion of the general public’s ability to hold on to the facts of a case which goes unsolved for years.

    Talk about frustration.
    And so we are.

     
    • mountain mama

      June 13, 2014 at 3:23 pm

      Penny do you think Sky is alive?

       
      • Pennyauntie

        June 13, 2014 at 6:35 pm

        Not from the first days of the investigation when the “getting gas” excuse as bogus came out. What mom leaves a baby alone in the car and takes the older child with her to get gas? Child endangerment from the get go! Add that none of mommy’s neighbor had seen Sky since June. Factor in that mommy didn’t seem able to tolerate Sky looking like his father and preferred the sister.

         
        • mountain mama

          June 13, 2014 at 8:32 pm

          I guess part of me has been hoping she shipped him off to Russia.

           
    • Dee

      June 13, 2014 at 4:04 pm

      “I kind of wonder why people think Ayden and Gabby will suffer because of their familys’ poor decisions. I don’t have a good opinion of the general public’s ability to hold on to the facts of a case which goes unsolved for years.”

      I tend to agree with you there Penny. There may be the odd child or two that’s not allowed to go to their house’s to play but I think that will be the exception rather than the rule. The longer it goes on the more people shove it to the back of their minds. Ayla who?

       
      • CG

        June 13, 2014 at 4:18 pm

        Maybe so, but all it takes is one concerned parent for the information to spread like wildfire. And even if several parents continue to allow playdates, the hushed whispers will undoubtedly affect the kids as well as the sudden withdrawal of a friend and the awkwardness destined to follow when G or A asks a friend/former friend why you can’t come play at my house?

         
    • Lee

      June 13, 2014 at 9:06 pm

      It’s amazing that someone could state that they abandoned a child that age in a vehicle like that and nothing has been done by the authorities. She may have been lying, but that is admitting to child endangerment and criminal neglect. . . . . .Too bad she wasn’t in Toledo, Ohio when she did it.

       
      • CG

        June 13, 2014 at 9:41 pm

        I think the problem with that is that investigators know it’s a lie. They can’t charge her for doing something they know she didn’t do, even if it would be criminal if she did it and even if she said she did it.

         
        • Lee

          June 13, 2014 at 10:07 pm

          So she admits (even if it is a lie) to a criminal act, let her sit in jail for a little bit and see if her story changes. If it does, you have filing a false report, obstruction of justice and anything else you can creatively come up with.

          The point is CG, that in dealing with these cases the authorities have to take the initiative, force the issue, and see what may fall out from shaking the bush. The let’s just sit back and wait isn’t working. The result is, as this post points out, we have an epidemic of disappeared children.

           
        • CG

          June 13, 2014 at 10:25 pm

          Lee I understand the frustration but you can’t put people in jail for something, knowing they didn’t do it just because you’re frustrated. Not even temporarily.

           
        • Lee

          June 13, 2014 at 10:33 pm

          CG, once again, they did do something. they either endangered a child as they said, or they impeded an investigation, falsified a report, and obstructed justice. They either did what they admitted to, or the other. Let them decide which they prefer, but put their feet to the fire.

           
        • CG

          June 13, 2014 at 10:59 pm

          Sorry, I think I missed the either-or aspect the first time around, Lee. I agree with you on the impeding an investigation, false reporting, obstruction– whatever charges fit the circumstances.

           
        • Lee

          June 13, 2014 at 11:09 pm

          Just because I know what I’m trying to say doesn’t mean that I convey it.

           
      • mountain mama

        June 13, 2014 at 11:11 pm

        I don’t have a problem with her sitting in jail but I still don’t think she would talk. She lawyered up immediately and refused to speak with the authorities.

         
  9. mountain mama

    June 13, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    In Joshua Davis’s case it’s hard to believe as many as eight people could be keeping a secret for this long without someone slipping and saying something to the wrong person.

     
    • Lee

      June 13, 2014 at 9:00 pm

      That handsome little fella deserved better than he received. I don’t think I cotton to the adults that were in that house that night though.

       
  10. Betty from Bangor

    June 14, 2014 at 9:48 am

    There are many ways to skin a cat-Le should keep watch of all of them-everywhere they go-If Justin, Elisha, Phoebe, Derek, Lance, Courtney are drug users-get one of them in Jail-all it is going to take is one to talk! Come on LE-MAKE IT HAPPEN! Justice will come for AYLA!

     
    • mountain mama

      June 14, 2014 at 10:20 am

      Betty I wonder why some will end up talking and some won’t? In Elaina’s case Angela was locked up for weeks and didn’t talk but as soon as Steven was busted, he talked.

       
      • Dee

        June 14, 2014 at 10:42 am

        Some have some semblance of a conscience and some are nothing but an empty shell? Strictly speaking of the Steinfurth case with that comment.

         
  11. mountain mama

    June 14, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    Does anyone think Lisa Irwin was kidnapped?

     
    • CG

      June 14, 2014 at 4:02 pm

      No. There was a staged break-in. If there had been a bona fide kidnapping, there would be no reason for the staged break-in. If you follow the evidence in the order it happened, you can see how new stories were created to cover up holes in the previous stories. IMO.

       
  12. mountain mama

    June 14, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    Peter has an interesting article discussing some of the same things and cases we’ve been discussing on this post.
    http://www.statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2014/06/prosecution-guilt-and-missing-justice.html

     
  13. mountain mama

    June 14, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    The new post “Slam Dunk Case” is up.

     
  14. Ericka Courtney

    November 7, 2016 at 8:38 pm

    Well it was determined that Aliayah Lunsford was killed by her mother. Her mother hid the body for 5 years

     
    • msperidot19

      November 8, 2016 at 8:59 am

      Thank you Ericka for sharing this information. Last I look that was not a know yet. I am so sorry about this news.

       
      • Ericka Courtney

        November 8, 2016 at 10:00 am

        Yeah you’re welcome. I figured id share it to spread the word. Its not the ending that people wanted and its unfortunate when you’re right. We don’t expect this from parents.

         

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