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The alleged assault of Courtney

24 Mar

I think everyone is aware of Justin’s arrest for Domestic Violence Assault on 7/6/13.

Dipietro-jpg (1)From WMTW
The father of missing Waterville toddler Ayla Reynolds was arrested on an unrelated domestic violence assault charge July 6, police said.

Justin DiPietro, 26, was arrested after a Portland police lieutenant saw DiPietro grab and push his 25-year-old ex-girlfriend Courtney Roberts on Spring Street near the Holiday Inn By The Bay at 11:15 p.m., according to court papers. The woman was not injured, police said.

On Dec. 17, 2011, DiPietro reported his daughter Ayla, who was 2 years old at the time, missing and state police launched what they described as the biggest investigation in Maine’s history. The case remains active and open, but there are no new developments in her disappearance, said Steven McCausland, spokesman for the Maine Department of Public Safety.

No one has been charged with a crime in connection with Ayla’s disappearance, and police have not named any suspects.

Police have said publicly they believe the child is dead, and they also believe the three adults who were at the home the night before Ayla was reported missing have not been forthcoming with all the information they might have. Those three people included Justin DiPietro, his sister Elisha DiPietro and Roberts.

“Nothing happened. I was just walking down the street, one foot in front of the other, like a normal person,” DiPietro said of the assault allegations when reached by phone at his Waterville home on Monday.

We also learned that Justin wasn’t supposed to have contact with Courtney.

From PPH
Court records show DiPietro was ordered after his arrest to have no contact with Roberts as a condition of bail.

Courtney wouldn’t speak to reporters about what happened but according to Katie at J4A:

*:*Katie*:*July 23, 2013 at 10:44 AM
I’ve heard Courtney’s side of the story. She contends that Justin did NOT strike her, it was NOT assault, and that it’s unfortunate a police officer saw it that way. She stated that they were trying to talk through things, and it got heated and they both made mistakes. She told me it’s hard when you love someone but your lives are just going in different directions in the moment. Can anyone blame her for that? I certainly cannot. Now, if Courtney has lied to me, we will see. But I think by now I could take what she says to me at face value, as it has all been proven to be truth along the way.

As it turned out, the charges were dropped.

From HP
Justin DiPietro on Wednesday pleaded guilty and was sentenced to four days in jail for violating conditions of his release in connection with his July arrest for allegedly assaulting a former girlfriend in Portland. Prosecutors dropped the assault charge itself, telling the judge that the ex-girlfriend was uncooperative.

When I read that Courtney was uncooperative, I assumed she wouldn’t testify against Justin but according to this article Courtney changed her story.

From MS
DiPietro also faced a charge of assault related to the incident in July with Roberts, but that charge was dropped Wednesday because Roberts had changed her story since filing a complaint.

It also says, “Roberts had changed her story since filing a complaint”. Does this mean that originally Courtney had filed a complaint?

If so why file a complaint over a heated discussion?

Did this have anything to do with Ayla’s disappearance?

images (41)From KJ
A state police spokesman said Thursday the assault charge is “completely unrelated” to the police probe into what happened to Ayla, which authorities have called the biggest criminal investigation in the state’s history.

Steve McCausland, spokesman for the Department of Public Safety, said that Maine State Police have not made contact with Dipietro and state police had nothing to do with the case involving DiPietro’s assault charge in Portland on July 6, when he allegedly grabbed and pushed former girlfriend Courtney Roberts while the two were arguing.

The way I read it, the charge has nothing to do with MSP’s investigation in Ayla’s case but that doesn’t mean the heated discussion had nothing to do with it. There was speculation that Courtney had come forward and Justin found out. There was speculation that Courtney was wired. There was also speculation that Justin had come forward with information and he was wired.

After it was learned that the charges were dropped because Courtney wouldn’t cooperate, many speculated that she did so because she felt threatened by Justin. Others speculated that Justin may have threatened to come forward with information about Courtney and her possible involvement in Ayla’s disappearance, if she didn’t drop the charges.

This may have been nothing more than an attempt to reconcile their relationship or at least to end things peacefully before their emotions got out of control. Or it could have something to do with the night Ayla went missing since Justin and Courtney, along with Elisha have been accused by MSP of withholding information.

I personally was holding out hope that Courtney had come forward with information and we would see progress in Ayla’s case. I continued to hope until 12/15/13 when McCausland said:

From MS
“We do not think we’ve gotten the full story from the three adults who were in the home that night,” McCausland said this week. “That would be Justin, Elisha and Courtney. Our stance has not changed. We think that they know more than they’ve told us.”

After all this time since the break up and assault, why if Courtney was innocent of any involvement in Ayla’s disappearance has she not told MSP the full story?

Is it possible Courtney doesn’t know any more than she’s told the investigators?

Why did Courtney change her story about the assault?

Who is protecting who?

Will Courtney ever change her story about the night Ayla went missing from 29 Violette Avenue?

Will Courtney ever do the right thing and tell?

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85 responses to “The alleged assault of Courtney

  1. mountain mama

    March 24, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    For those who would like to light a candle to represent your thoughts, hopes or prayers for Ayla, here are her candle pages.

    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=ayla
    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=ARAA
    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=WIA

     
  2. Lee

    March 24, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    Thank you for the fine post MM.

     
  3. Lee

    March 24, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    Is it just me, or does anyone else find Courtney to be the most mysterious person connected to Ayla’s case?

     
    • CG

      March 24, 2014 at 6:24 pm

      I agree, Lee.

       
    • mountain mama

      March 24, 2014 at 6:29 pm

      I agree too Lee.

       
    • Dee

      March 24, 2014 at 7:19 pm

      Me three. I also agree.

       
    • Pennyauntie

      March 24, 2014 at 8:32 pm

      I know that from reading CR’s posts on some Baby Blog, she was desperate to find someone to love her and her baby. “Will I ever find anyone to love me and my baby?” she cried. On that blog she posted several times talking about her pregnancy and then Ayden’s birth, and even about his ne’er-do-well sperm donor. A man who evidently got another woman pregnant at around the same time as Courtney. Still, Courtney was asking other posters if she should take him back since he said he still loved her.

      I did note that CR and JD were not a “long-time” couple as Angela Harry reported. Ayden was several months old when CR took up with Justin. I used to know the month and year of Ayden’s birth in relation to Ayla’s birth, but I’ve forgotten!

       
    • Nanaof4

      March 25, 2014 at 1:56 pm

      I think Courtney is afraid of the DiPietros. If the officer saw the alleged assault, Courtney may have written out a complaint at that time because the officer would have encouraged her to press charges. However, after being out of the police presence and thinking about what the Dipietros could do to her, she changed her story and denied the altercation. It wouldn’t be the first time a victim of domestic violence backed down from charges out of fear.

      I personally do not feel like their is any incentive for Courtney to come forward with what she knows, if anything. There is plenty of incentive to keep quiet.

      I still feel there is a big possibility that Ayla went missing long before she was reported. If that is the case then all Courtney knows is that she didn’t see Ayla on the 16 or 17th of December, but for some reason (fear) she is going along with the story.

      All JMO as always.

       
      • mountain mama

        March 25, 2014 at 2:06 pm

        Nana said, “However, after being out of the police presence and thinking about what the Dipietros could do to her, she changed her story and denied the altercation. It wouldn’t be the first time a victim of domestic violence backed down from charges out of fear.”

        ***I agree Nana.

         
  4. CG

    March 24, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    The Portland area police seem conscientious about using every means at their disposal to help justice prevail. Not only did they arrest Justin for whatever cause presented itself on this occasion, they also apparently refused him a hideout in their station after his court appearance. South Portland police, too, arrested him when he was found to be violating his bail by possessing alcohol in violation of his conditions of release. I wonder if some of it is outrage about how a promising new cop from Lewiston was used in the taking of Ayla or loyalty to a local family. In any case,it looks like they sincerely believe Justin belongs behind bars.

     
    • Pennyauntie

      March 24, 2014 at 8:05 pm

      Yeah, and when they do get the guy with the “normal” obsession behind bars, he’s probably offered a manicure, time in the sauna and as much beer as he can guzzle.. Maine LE and judicial system seems not interested in keeping Justin under lock and key. Is his family, or certain members, important to the grand poobahs of Maine? Or must they keep Justin free to “lead” them to more important arrests? “Far-reaching investigation”.

       
    • mountain mama

      March 24, 2014 at 9:14 pm

      That’s interesting CG. I wonder how much inside info on Ayla’s case the PPD have since they aren’t WPD or MSP.

       
  5. Karen

    March 24, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    Courtney never said anything to the public about Ayla. I assume she did on the little light of Maine site, but I don’t know what.
    We don’t know what she told LE.
    What does she tell her friends?
    I don’t know what to think about Courtney.

     
    • Bonnie

      March 24, 2014 at 6:49 pm

      Maybe she didn’t even see Ayla that night, maybe she was told she was already in bed and has no more idea what happened to Ayla than we have.

       
      • mountain mama

        March 24, 2014 at 6:54 pm

        That’s possible Bonnie but if so what would be her reason for saying she and her son slept in the basement now that we know Ayla’s blood and possible vomit and saliva were in that bed? Could she have slept there and not been aware of it?

         
        • Pennyauntie

          March 24, 2014 at 8:20 pm

          If we believe that anybody slept anywhere in that house that night, Courtney and Ayden probably slept in Phoebe’s room.

          I would like to know if it was really a habit for Wonder Woman of the Fast Track, Courtney, and her son,Ayden, to spend the weekends at Violette Ave. as dear Angela informed us.

          Why?Courtney had her own apartment in a complex owned by her parents. Justin could have easily taken Ayla to spend weekends with Courtney in her apartment where Ayden had his own bed.

          That is, if Justin wasn’t used to handing Ayla off to either Phoebe or Elisha to watch on most weekends. That might have been a drag for either Phoebe or Elisha.

          We have heard that Justin still spent most of his time in Portland after he “moved back to Waterville.”.Who, for the most part, took care of Ayla and where? Local gossip is that even Justin’s other baby mamma watched Ayla in Portland.

          Did Justin hunker down during the week in Waterville being the watchful daddy…or did he do his “thing” while someone else watch Ayla? Elisha and Phoebe were working during the week.

           
        • Lee

          March 24, 2014 at 8:52 pm

          I’ve always wondered if Ayla went to Heidi’s daycare.

           
        • Bonnie

          March 24, 2014 at 9:15 pm

          Yes Mountain Mama,
          I think that she may have slept there and been unaware of Ayla’s blood, maybe Justin cleaned up hastily before. The clean up of the blood was sloppy, and why leave the tote bag with sheets which were supposedly used to wipe the blood ? The clean up may have been done hastily before anyone showed up or done while someone was sleeping in the room. I think that if Justin had had time to clean up and could have seen clearly he would not have left the tote bag. That’s my personal opinion.

           
        • mountain mama

          March 24, 2014 at 9:33 pm

          Bonnie the “sheet” found in the tote isn’t the “sheets” with the mattress that had blood, saliva and possibly vomit on them. Also I asked Jeff if the tote was a hard plastic tote or more of a tote bag. He said it was hard plastic.

          “Ayla’s blood splatter was found on a plastic blue tote in the basement and a sheet that was found inside had Ayla’s blood stains on it. MSP said that it had been used to cleanup Ayla’s blood.”

          “A “fist size stain” of Ayla’s blood was found on Justin’s mattress and sheets. This sample contained saliva, possibly vomit, and “a toy hair like” pink fiber which, at the time, MSP had not identified.”

          http://united4ayla.com/the-case-for-ayla/

           
    • Dee

      March 24, 2014 at 7:22 pm

      What Courtney was reported to have said on TLLOM did not paint a flattering picture of her. I have never been on that site and it was reported second, maybe third hand so I don’t know if it was accurate.

       
      • Pennyauntie

        March 24, 2014 at 8:24 pm

        I think I read a quote of Courtney’s from TLLOM or maybe Facebook. It was a perfuntory snippet saying something like “Missing .Keep your eyes open for Ayla.” and accompanied by a posted picture of Ayla.

         
    • mountain mama

      March 24, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      Courtney also managed to keep her pic out of the local media. People in Portland who know about Ayla’s case only through MSM probably pass her on the sidewalk, in the stores or at restaurants and don’t realize she is one of the three who is withholding information.

       
  6. Pennyauntie

    March 24, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Courtney wouldn’t speak to reporters about what happened but according to Katie at J4A:

    *:*Katie*:*July 23, 2013 at 10:44 AM
    I’ve heard Courtney’s side of the story. She contends that Justin did NOT strike her, it was NOT assault, and that it’s unfortunate a police officer saw it that way. She stated that they were trying to talk through things, and it got heated and they both made mistakes. She told me it’s hard when you love someone but your lives are just going in different directions in the moment. Can anyone blame her for that? I certainly cannot. Now, if Courtney has lied to me, we will see. But I think by now I could take what she says to me at face value, as it has all been proven to be truth along the way.

     
  7. Pennyauntie

    March 24, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    Sorry meant to comment on Katie’s comment.

    Katie has admitted that she is a “distant friend” of Justin’s. Whatever that means. Someone described Katie as a “friend of a friend” of Justin’s. Can I see Courtney cozying up to a “distant friend” of Justin’s or a “friend of a friend of Justin’s” after the break up between Courtney and Justin?

    It’s difficult,to imagine Courtney having girl talk with Katie, but Katie seems to be “in the know” about a lot happening in Ayla’s disappearance. I wonder if Courtney told Katie the time she arrived at Violette Ave. on the 16th. And where she slept that night when little Ayla vanished into thin air..

     
    • CG

      March 24, 2014 at 8:49 pm

      Penny is Katie Courtney’s friend first and Justin’s by extension?

       
      • Pennyauntie

        March 24, 2014 at 10:13 pm

        CG, Could be, that Katie is Courtney’s friend, but who knows? Katie, I presume! It’s all a little mysterious.

         
        • mountain mama

          March 24, 2014 at 10:21 pm

          More than a little Penny.

           
  8. Pennyauntie

    March 24, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    “I’ve always wondered if Ayla went to Heidi’s daycare.”

    Lee, come and sit by me! The daycare seems the perfect spot for her and might explain Heidi’s huge involvement as Justin’s lay defense counsel. But wouldn’t some of the local moms with children in Heidi’s daycare have noticed Ayla and remembered her when all the news and pics of Ayla exploded? Unless, Ayla wasn’t around when moms brought their children or when they picked them up.

     
    • Lee

      March 24, 2014 at 10:38 pm

      Good question.

       
  9. Anna

    March 25, 2014 at 12:35 am

    Is there any more news from le, Trista, anyone? Are there any more marches planned, billboards, posters? I live a long ways away, but am very frustrated with the lack of news coverage on ayla lately…….what can I do to help? I can donate funds, and I’m sure there are a lot of others in different states that would do the same to keep the pressure on through the media, etc.

     
    • Bonnie

      March 25, 2014 at 8:10 am

      Anna, I think most people have stopped believing that Ayla is still alive. LE repeatedly said that Ayla is likely dead and that the people in the house on Violette avenue hold the answer.All the posters and billboards have not made Justin speak and won’ make him speak, I don’t know what else will.

       
    • mountain mama

      March 25, 2014 at 12:09 pm

      Anna as far as I know the families aren’t taking donations at this time. Trista is having an awareness event for what would be Ayla’s fourth birthday. Hopefully the media will cover it. I guess we can only wait and see what happens next and keep hoping and praying. We can continue to comment, read and share from Ayla’s blogs and facebook pages and we can light candles for Ayla. Thank you for being a voice for Ayla, Anna.

       
  10. Karen

    March 25, 2014 at 9:47 am

    I was reading at j4A to see if I could find things Courtney said on tllom. Tori said she had quotes from Courtney and Elisha that she would post later but I don’t think she ever did. It would be interesting to read them sometime.
    I wonder about the things Heidi said. She must have gotten the information she wrote from her son or Justin. And I think she really wanted to believe what they told her.
    I wonder what she thinks now after all that has been released. She has not said much lately. Does she know they lied to her or does she still believe them?
    http://justiceforayla.blogspot.com/2012/03/expose-on-ttlom-cult.html

     
    • CG

      March 25, 2014 at 1:19 pm

      Courtney was allegedly addressing the person who allegedly had Ayla on a private Facebook group. Interesting.

       
      • Dee

        March 25, 2014 at 1:32 pm

        Yeah, that would work really well to get the “kidnapper’s” attention. smh

         
        • mountain mama

          March 25, 2014 at 1:34 pm

          Kind of like their private awareness events huh?

           
        • Dee

          March 25, 2014 at 1:54 pm

          Yup.

           
  11. Karen

    March 25, 2014 at 9:49 am

    Lee, I don’t know where I read it but I am pretty sure Heidi said she never kept Ayla for Justin.

     
  12. Karen

    March 25, 2014 at 12:56 pm

     
    • Dee

      March 25, 2014 at 1:29 pm

      I haven’t read those old posts in a while. That was an interesting post on Courtney on J4A, Karen.

      Courtney Roberts > This Little Light of Maine I just hope that you see her face everywhere and you know that we won’t give up, there is no such thing in our mind when it comes to ayla. You can try to find a way out but I think we all know your only way out is to bring ayla to a safe place. I hope you see in those pretty blue eyes that she is longing for a familiar face, her family. I have no doubt in my mind that we will see her again, she deserves the best and most honest life possible. I will continue to pray for ayla and for whoever has her to do what’s right and bring her back home. I have always and continued to see you as a daughter to me, and a brother to ay. Love you so

      Notice she says Ayla’s longing for a familiar face, her family. At that point at least, Courtney didn’t think Ayla was with Trista otherwise why would she say that? Had she not gotten the memo from Phoebe yet?

       
    • mountain mama

      March 25, 2014 at 1:36 pm

      Thank you for finding these comments from Courtney, Karen. I had forgotten them.

       
  13. Dee

    March 25, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    I brought this over from the previous thread because people might not see it. They’re good thoughts and more good questions…

    Pennyauntie
    March 24, 2014 at 7:14 pm Edit
    I have long thought that Courtney was called to service on the night or early morning of the 16th/17th to be a witness to an “abduction”. A third party was needed to support Elisha and Justin and Phoebe (out on her “date”) in their stories. Nary a word was spoken in public by Courtney about the goings on on the night of the 16th; maybe because Courtney couldn’t keep the story straight. Courtney and Ayden certainly did not sleep in a bed with blood-stained sheets amid walls with evidence of blood splatter. Did they sleep there at all?

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    Nanaof4
    March 25, 2014 at 2:45 pm Edit
    Good questions PennyAuntie. I don’t think Courtney would have slept in a room with blood everywhere or allowed her son to sleep there. I think it was already cleaned up by Justin so most of it was not visible to the naked eye. Don’t know the lighting situation either, but in dealing with my grandbabies druggie mom (my son’s child), the lifestyle is way different. Stains may not be a big deal to her.

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    Bonnie
    March 25, 2014 at 3:54 pm Edit
    I agree Nana, there is no way Courtney would have slept in that room knowing that Ayla’s blood was there and that her son would sleep there. If she got there and her son was already asleep, the light may have been dimmed in order to let him sleep, and she may not have noticed the blood.

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    mountain mama
    March 25, 2014 at 4:15 pm Edit
    Nana and Bonnie you’re making more questions for me 🙂

    Was Courtney’s visit unexpected, a surprise?

    Or did Courtney arrive earlier than was planned?

    Could this be why some of the blood was cleaned up and some wasn’t?

    Could this be why the bloody tote wasn’t disposed of before 911 was called?

    Did Courtney interrupt the clean up and there was no way to finish before calling 911?

     
    • mountain mama

      March 25, 2014 at 4:33 pm

      Thanks Dee. I’m trying to find where Jeff told us that Justin said Courtney got there around 8 and stayed in the basement. Brain fog today though. Anyone remember? Also he said Justin went to get wine.

       
      • mountain mama

        March 25, 2014 at 4:36 pm

        NM “Justin told LE that on Friday afternoon (12/16/11) he was “hanging out with Ayla” and Christmas shopping. Courtney showed up at 8pm and she stayed in the basement with the kids while Justin went to the store for some wine, besides that he told MSP “nothing happened”, no party, no drug deals, etc..” http://united4ayla.com/the-kidnappers-a-fairy-tale/

         
        • Bonnie

          March 25, 2014 at 6:42 pm

          I thought Ayla was put to bed at 8 pm ? And that Elisha went to check on her at 10 pm ?

           
        • mountain mama

          March 25, 2014 at 6:48 pm

          That’s what was said in the 911 transcripts Bonnie.

           
        • A1

          March 25, 2014 at 7:50 pm

          M.M, There was also this said by Jeff: on Sept. 25, 2013:

          Hello Masquerade, JohnP, that was an assumption on my part that Courtney would be watching the kids while Justin went to the store for wine (and the trip for wine is what he told MSP, they did not tell me if it was verified with cameras). I do not know when Ayla was put to bed, ..and I have no idea were Elisha and Gabbie was during all of this.

          Anon. 12ish, Yes, I was aware of what I had said 7 months ago and when I saw it come up again, I had to clarify. I can not remember if MSP had actually told me:

          “…she stayed in the basement with the kids..”

          Whether she watched the kids in the basement or was there to watch the kids while he left is assumed.

           
        • Lee

          March 25, 2014 at 8:02 pm

          A1, I know your comment is not to me, but I’m not sure I am following you. Would you please explain what you’re saying for me?

           
        • Dee

          March 25, 2014 at 8:41 pm

          I think what A1 is saying is…we can’t assume Courtney was left in control while Justin “went for wine” since Jeff admits that is an assumption he made. They can correct me if I’m wrong.

           
    • Karen

      March 25, 2014 at 5:33 pm

      Maybe Courtney did show up before Justin was done with the clean up. But would she have seen and smelled the mess by the bed? Would Justin just say yeah, Ayla got sick down here and in my truck. Leave it alone and have a glass of wine?
      And I am back to why did he call Derrick before the 911 call.

       
  14. Karen

    March 25, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    Courtney was hurt by Aden’s father cheating on her. Then, I read, she wouldn’t believe justin cheated on her. She must have really wanted to believe he was her “one”.
    Now that is over, what keeps her from speaking out?
    Did she just lie for him to LE or do you think she is more involved?

     
    • Lee

      March 25, 2014 at 5:21 pm

      Does anyone think it’s possible that Courtney doesn’t really know anything, but is afraid if push comes to shove all the DiPietro fingers will point at her? Could that be something that would explain her silence and wanting to just get on with her life?

       
      • Karen

        March 25, 2014 at 5:25 pm

        If Ayla was already gone and she didn’t sleep in the basement maybe she doesn’t know what happened.
        I can’t believe she would or let her son sleep in blood and vomit.

         
      • CG

        March 25, 2014 at 5:41 pm

        Lee, part of me keeps pondering maybe she doesn’t know what happened to Ayla. Every time I think could she really could have had no clue up to the 911 call, I go back to the blood. And also when you look at how Justin acts, he’s so jumpy- how could he not have been setting off alarms with her that after the fact she would look back and say, yeah he was acting strangely?

        And then there are the various stories about the trip(s) Justin allegedly took that night. Who invites their girlfriend over and immediately leaves to go out? Now if it was just a wine trip, sure, but there is some talk he was seen alone at the Bob in that night and there is still uncertainty as to when the bed run actually took place or whether Justin was in Portland in the early evening for whatever reason.

        I think the particular people being in that house that night was part of a plan of some sort. I find it hard to believe Courtney knows nothing. I remain open to the possibility but it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

        Karen, “just lying” in a homicide investigation is pretty extreme and involves great personal risk, risk which in her case, would if realized affect not only her but her baby. Especially since they weren’t married, didn’t have a kid together, why would she lie rather than say no if asked to cover for him? I think there must be something tying her in. JMO.

         
        • Karen

          March 25, 2014 at 6:11 pm

          Justin seems to have a lot of people just lying for him. I don’t understand any of it.
          Trista wanted to believe the best about him for a long while too. Her baby came back with bruises and she still wanted to be with the man.
          How does he convince people of the things he apparently convinces them of? Did Heidi believe this stuff she said or was she protecting her son?

           
        • mountain mama

          March 25, 2014 at 6:29 pm

          Karen I think part of how Justin convinces people is that they want to believe him. Justin has allowed us to see very little of him. I believe everyone has a good side and those who know him may be focusing on the good side which muddies or distorts the rest of what they see or hear.

           
    • Pennyauntie

      March 25, 2014 at 9:41 pm

      Maybe CR is afraid to say anything. Lance, the DiPietro enforcer, might come after her with a bat. Maybe he already has. Or Phoebe has. Phoebe was certainly not Befuddled Granny when she encountered Trista. More like Ma Barker.

       
  15. Karen

    March 25, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    This post is good to read again too. About what happen with the Dipietro family after Ayla’s disappearance.
    http://justiceforayla.blogspot.com/2012/05/random-questions.html
    Maybe Elisha didn’t know what was going on either that night.

     
    • Bonnie

      March 25, 2014 at 9:00 pm

      So we still don’t know who put Ayla to bed at 8 pm ?

       
      • mountain mama

        March 25, 2014 at 9:06 pm

        According to Justin in the 911 transcripts, he put her to bed at 8.
        ___________________________________________________________________

        WCC Hi, how long ago did you see your child?

        C1 When I put her to bed last night. My sister had checked on her. Um, woke up this morning, went to her room and she’s not there.

        WCC Okay, how old is she?

        C1 Twenty months old.

        WCC Twenty months?

        C1 Yes ma’am.

        WCC All right. So you saw her last sometime in the evening?

        C1 Yeah, yeah, I put her to bed (Inaudible) at eight o’clock (8:00).

        https://friendsforayla.wordpress.com/2014/02/03/911-full-transcripts-all-calls/

         
        • Bonnie

          March 26, 2014 at 8:10 am

          So if Justin put Ayla to bed at 8, Courtney couldn’t be in the basement with Ayla and her son at 8 while Justin went to buy wine. Something doesn’t make sense here.

           
        • mountain mama

          March 26, 2014 at 8:46 am

          Bonnie see A1’s comment. Jeff later said he assumed Courtney watched the kids but he doesn’t know for sure where the kids were at the time.

           
  16. mountain mama

    March 25, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    OT Published on Mar 25, 2014
    Law enforcement authorities today released surveillance footage of Kahlil Malik Tatum and missing 8-year-old Relisha Tenau Rudd taken on Wednesday, February 26, 2014, at the Holiday Inn Express located at 1917 Bladensburg Road NE, Washington, D.C.

    The video shows Tatum and Rudd walking down a hallway in the hotel. Rudd is wearing a pair of pink boots and a purple Helly Hansen brand jacket with white stripes. The public is being asked to view the video and to contact law enforcement if they have seen either individual.

    The FBI is offering a reward of up to $25,000 for information leading to the location and return of missing 8-year-old Relisha Tenau Rudd.

     
    • Bonnie

      March 26, 2014 at 10:34 am

      I read the comment Mountain Mamma, but Justin can’ have put Ayla to bed at 8pm and left Courtney to play with the kids in the basement. In the call to 911 Justin says he put Ayla to bed at 8pm right ?

       
  17. Pennyauntie

    March 25, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Why is it necessary for us to believe that Justin slept in the basement with his girlfriend of the moment and her child while his own child with a broken arm was left alone upstairs? Because being down in the basement makes some sense to explain why they didn’t hear either the kidnapper or perhaps Ayla’s cries for assistance.

    Why do you think it is necessary for us to believe that Elisha took fussy Gabby into her bedroom to sleep? Because it gives Elisha an “out”; she couldn’t hear or see anything, either. Angela Harry took great pains to convince us that Gabby sleeping with her mom “was not at all unsual.”

    Why is it necessary for us to believe that Phoebe was (too coincidentally) out on a date that fateful night? Because Phoebe couldn’t possibly have heard the intruder enter her house, and take a child in complete silence. Nor could Phoebe know anything about what went on in the house that night before the kidnapping.

    How convenient for the kidnapper that on this night, the house door was left unlocked, and Ayla was left entirely alone in her room while all the young adults slept peacefully, undisturbed with their kids from 10:00 that evening until 8:30 the next morning, even “fussy” Gabby.

    These are stories they made up to try and explain the circumstance of Ayla missing from her bed which, according to Justin, she absolutely could not get out of. What other story could they have told?

    “We were shopping in Walmart and suddenly I turned around and Ayla was gone We looked everywhere in the store and called out security, but she had vanished.”

    “I left Ayla in the car while I went into the convenience store for some wine. When I came out, Ayla was not in the car. She was gone.”

    Some stores have surveillance cameras, though. Stories could be verified. Vanishing from the home is by far the safest choice. IMO.

     
    • Anissa Roberts

      March 27, 2014 at 8:26 pm

      Pennyauntie, this is why LE has said that their stories don’t pass the “straight face test” . Thankfully, LE sees right through all the lies and made up fictions they keep trying to convince the world are truths. My heart breaks for Trista, and it mourns for little Ayla. I know no one in this personally. I have no attachment to this other than an interested private citizen.

      What truly concerns me are the politics in play that have prevented an arrest in this case. The AG is on orders not to allow an arrest until the body is found in hopes this never happens because then it will open the CPS system to a Federal Investigation. This would happen because Maine has had too many incidence of improper CPS involvement and that has come to the attention of the Federal offices. How this connects is because CPS is how Ayla came to be in Justin’s custody in the first place. And that alone is a HUGE ethics issue. Ayla was safely in the care of her maternal grandfather and his wife. Phoebe caught wind of this and contacted a distant relative that happens to work in CPS. This relative inappropriately became involved and removed Ayla from her grandfather’s home, with no justifiable reason. THis CPS worker never completed a background check on Justin or anyone in the home, she never handed this case over to a nonfamily member for over site, and she never maintained wellness checks after placing Ayla in his care. I have taken the CPS training at the Muskee Center in Augusta. I have my certificate and have worked beside CPS in another capacity. Nothing in this from the start followed the proper procedures as outlined by the Muskee Center and AG’s office.

      I also want to remind people about another piece of Maine Law. In the state of Maine if an unmarried woman has a child and the father signs the birth certificate then the child automatically has his surname. The only time a child retains the mother’s surname if the father does not sign the bc at the time of birth. Ayla’s surname is Reynolds – her mother’s surname NOT DiPietro! I am not saying he isn’t her father I am pointing out that he obviously did not have a very invested interest in being a part of her life from the very beginning of it! I think he only maintained contact at the insistence of Phoebe! I think Ayla only came to be placed in that home at the insistence of Phoebe! And I think that the entire cover up of what really happened in that home to poor little is being directed by Phoebe!! Phoebe has a history with CPS. Several of her own children were remove from her care by CPS. How much of this was done at the hands of Phoebe – who clearly only sees her children and grandchildren as property and pawns to be hoarded and used to her own ends??

      Let’s light our candles in memory of this little angel but let’s not forget some of the most important facts in this case!

       
      • mountain mama

        March 27, 2014 at 8:54 pm

        I mean no offense Anissa but some of the things you’ve brought up haven’t been confirmed as fact that I’m aware of. Ayla was living with her maternal aunt and grandmother when Justin took her, not at her grandfather’s. Also do you have proof that a relative of Phoebe’s helped orchestrate the taking of Ayla through DHHS? Is there any proof that Phoebe’s children were removed from her home? We’ve all heard these rumors but unless it can be confirmed, we can’t say they are facts.

         
        • Anissa Roberts

          March 28, 2014 at 1:14 pm

          Unless the Kennebec Journal and Bangor Daily News cannot be believed then in my opinion it has been proven as fact as both of those very reputable papers reported on these things in the early days of the investigation. I would have to say that since Phoebe has not filed any litigation against either news paper for defamation or liable then yes it is fact. And since it was a DHHS spokes person that reported that they were conducting their own internal review of how she came to be in Justin’s care then that too is fact.

           
        • Anissa Roberts

          March 28, 2014 at 1:19 pm

          I apologize for confusing which part of the maternal family Ayla was living with prior to being placed with Justin. My point is simply she was safe, she was being well cared for by people she knew and who loved her. There was no reason for her to be removed from their care. Maine has no such law or precedence for a child to be in the care of a parent vs extended family. In point of fact CPS themselves no such regulation or statute. Removing her was simply a “choice” someone made. A very poor choice in my opinion.

           
        • Anissa Roberts

          March 28, 2014 at 1:37 pm

          I am in no way offended MM, at all. 🙂 I would not want hear-say on this or any other site either. I just want people thinking about WHY the AG won’t allow charges to be filed against anyone on this case “until a body is found.” WHY? It can’t be simply because of the circumstantial evidence because other’s have been brought to trial in Maine without a body and convicted. Granted in some of those cases the body was found during trial but my point is that they were charged and brought to trial without it. What makes this case so very different? There has to be a reason. I worked alongside Ms. Mills when she was the DA in Cumberland County. I will admit I do not like this woman nor do I have any respect for her views on most matters of law. Knowing what I do about her is what lead me to dig a little deeper into what could be her motive in this case. In speaking with people I know and trust in the upper echelon of various departments within DHHS I came to the conclusion that it is all political. The saddest thing is that it means the key people involved caught one heck of a lucky break. If Maine were not under the microscope of the Federal Gov’t for Labor practices, CPS practices, Unemployment issues, and so much more then this case would be moving much faster.

           
        • mountain mama

          March 28, 2014 at 1:41 pm

          Anissa I have done very extensive research on this case for over two years, that includes articles from KJ and BDN and I have yet to find an article saying a family member of Phoebe’s working for DHHS helped orchestrate the taking of Ayla or that Phoebe’s children were removed from her home by DHHS. As I said before, these rumors have been rampant since shortly after Ayla disappeared. It would help clear this up if you can provide the links for these articles.

           
        • mountain mama

          March 28, 2014 at 1:52 pm

          Anissa your suspicions may very well be correct but please keep in mind that in the other no body convictions in Maine, the prosecution had witnesses and witness testimony, something it appears the AG doesn’t have at this point. The three potential witnesses are withholding information.

           
        • Anonymous

          March 31, 2014 at 2:45 pm

          Well then your “extensive research” should have uncovered this article in the KJ from December 19, 2011 that clearly states that CPS removed Ayla from her maternal grandmother’s home.
          http://www.kjonline.com/Waiting-difficult-for-family-of-missing-toddler.html?searchterm=ayla+reynolds
          And this one from the same date from the Portland Press Herald
          http://www.pressherald.com/news/family-in-portland-awaits-word-as-search-for-toddler-continues_2011-12-19.html?searchterm=ayla+reynolds

          This Yahoo-News report states that “Karen J Small is related by marriage to Phoebe DiPietro.”
          http://news.yahoo.com/ayla-reynolds-victim-illegal-custody-grab-211625924.html And the really telling thing for me is the comment, ” Father trumps Aunt – every time.” No it doesn’t say that she specifically is involved – the State CPS office would NEVER state that because it is unethical. Having worked in their offices on the 3rd floor in Lewiston I can tell you with every fiber of my being that this is the comment of someone with a personal interest in the placement of this child and is typical of a friend or family member that is involved inappropriately in the placement of a child.

          If anyone one of us had 100% to all of the things I or any of us have called into question then this case would be over by now because ‘with all of these absolute facts there would be no need for further investigation. All ANY of us has to go on is technically hear-say. It is a matter of if you trust the sources of the information. Even what we are given by the police is hearsay once we repeat it. And they could be giving misinformation on purpose to throw off and rule out false leads.

          As for the other no body cases in Maine, you are wrong. I have found in both the Buddy Robinson and a recently solved cold case in Presque Isle that the police had very little to go on and very dubious witnesses to say the least. No one “saw” Buddy kill Brianna! Not one person could even place her there except people of very questionable background and who could also have easily committed the crime themselves. The young woman in PI, all they had to go on was a partial license plate and some partial blood evidence. All they have of Ayla is her disappearance, and blood evidence. And I don’t see you going after Pennyauntie or anyone else that has commented here and offered alternative theories using their own speculation so why am I being singled out?

           
        • mountain mama

          March 31, 2014 at 3:27 pm

          Anon I asked you for a link where it was confirmed that Phoebe’s children were removed from her home. I asked for a link where it was confirmed that Phoebe’s relative through DHHS helped in the removal of Ayla. You claimed you had read both of these things in the BDN and the KJ. The link you provided for the Yahoo article only mentions what was said in comments on line in regards to Phoebe and Karen Small being related. Comments that anyone could’ve made, comments that may or may not be true. Comments that aren’t necessarily fact.

          I’m not sure why you would think I disagree with DHHS being responsible in part for the taking of Ayla, I know they were involved.

          As far as the no body cases you cited, very dubious witnesses or not, they got a conviction with limited evidence.

          I’m not picking on you. I want justice for Ayla as much as you do. All are welcome to state their opinions, theories and speculations. When those are stated as facts, I try to point it out rather than have misunderstandings and misinformation put out.

           
        • Anonymous

          March 31, 2014 at 3:37 pm

          The only other thing I would like to add is this.
          You want us all to base our opinions and conclusions on “fact” from reliable sources only. Well, I choose to believe LE. As do you from what I have read on this site. If you agree that LE is a reliable source and to be believed then anyone LE has stated they feel is truthful should also be considered reliable and believable by extension. That being said, I choose to believe Trista and the Reynolds family because LE has stated on multiple occasions that she and the Reynolds family have been truthful and forth coming.
          You cannot have it both ways. You cannot say on the one hand that LE is to be believed and then on the other say people cannot believe one family in this over the other in this. LE has made a very clear distinction between the two families involved. They have said that one is truthful and the other is not. If the Reynolds family is being believed by LE then anything they have said in the news and to the papers is to be believed and by that end is not rumor!

           
        • Anonymous

          March 31, 2014 at 3:44 pm

          CPS will not and cannot confirm or deny any allegations of children being removed from as home so no such proof of their involvement with Phoebe exists other than the reports in the early days of the investigation that she had prior involvement with them. There is a mention of it having happened in one of the articles within the first week of the investigation. But as far as proof it happened – that is never to come out. Even the press isn’t ever going to be able to “prove” it. At the same time, there has never been a single word contradicting it out of Phoebe either. She is VERY vocal person and has called out other reports she felt were erroneous – why not this one? That is why I take it as fact. Other’s are allowed to form their own conclusion as they wish. Until or unless she or one of her children comes out and states yes this happened or no this didn’t there is no proof to be found.

           
  18. Lee

    March 25, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    What is it about Fridays at Violette Avenue? It was a Friday that Ayla’s arm was broken, and a Friday night Ayla was last seen.

     
    • Pennyauntie

      March 26, 2014 at 5:05 pm

      Lee, we infer from Phoebe and the “Three” that all the young adults — all under 25 years of age –, were snug in their beds by 10:p.m. on a Friday that fateful 16th of Dec.. “No, no. No party at the house” that night as Phoebe who was not there, informed us.. (I do believe it was no ordinary party which took place.)

       
  19. Lee

    March 25, 2014 at 10:45 pm

    Gwen, if you are reading, I hope everything is going o.k. . . . You know you and your family and granddaughter are in our thoughts and prayers.

     
  20. Gwen Griffin

    March 26, 2014 at 8:38 am

    Thank you Lee. I was just thinking about yall and wanted everyone to know that I am back to work and can not comment as much but reading.

    I feel everyone that writes a post does it from what they have learn from reading the Le media comments. Some slam for what you write but where are they getting their info. I am not trying to start a war but praise the ones that day after day continue to keep Ayla in your thoughts and prayers. It is hard to take out of your day and continue this fight for justice for Ayla but with both sides going silent everyone still come up with post that may make someone change their mind either way. Do not give up as many have given up or do not have the same believes and just will not come here to voice theirs.

    We are in a fight with my granddaughter’s mother and CPS so I know how much it takes out of a person. CPS is wants her back with the mother no matter what she did. They came yesterday and said they had pictures of one of her recent visits with her mother that showed she had bruises. NOBODY in this house has never hit her. Time outs and sitting down is what we do and she does it really well. CPS ask my son to take the her clothes off and guess what, no bruises. Now they want my son and his girlfriend to take parenting classes. Now my son will ask for visits to be at CPS office for 1 hour instead of the grandfather picking her up for 9 hours and taking her to their house. It is a screwed up system.

    Sorry for taking up Ayla space but this shows that the system is real bad. Ayla fell thru a system that does not care about the child. Trista truly believed in Justin and he let her down. She has to be out of energy to be public but I believe she is not out of steam. Keep going and when I can comment I will. It warms my heart to see so many fighting for Ayla. Justice for Ayla.

     
    • mountain mama

      March 26, 2014 at 9:28 am

      Comment when you can Gwen. We’ll continue to pray for your granddaughter and family. This has to be so confusing for her. Little ones don’t understand.

       

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