There are many things about Ayla’s case that do not make sense no matter how you look at it. Much that we know is only hearsay without confirmation. We do not have all the puzzle pieces and some of those we have don’t fit in the puzzle without manipulating the edges.
Below are some of the things that make me go hmmm.
His mother, Phoebe DiPietro, 47, was in the next room.
“I was sitting in the living room with my daughter, and we heard a big thump,” she recalled Thursday. “I immediately went to the kitchen and Ayla was scared, obviously. I picked her up.”
Phoebe DiPietro said Justin’s wrist was injured in the fall, but Ayla appeared to be OK.
“I was more worried about (Justin’s) wrist, because he’s broken it into 39 pieces (in a snowboard accident),” she said.
Everything seemed normal afterward, they said. The family sat down for a lasagna dinner, then put Ayla into pajamas for the night.
“We hung out for a little while after,” Justin DiPietro said. “She was a little fussy here and there, but if you’d seen her, you wouldn’t have known anything was wrong with her.”
The next day, DiPietro left to attend a commercial driver’s license course at Lawrence Adult Education in Fairfield. Before he left the driveway, however, Phoebe DiPietro called him back in into the house.
“When I came in, she showed me Ayla’s hand and it was swollen,” he said.
Ayla wasn’t crying, Phoebe DiPietro said. So, the family weighed a decision.
“It was my last class,” Justin DiPietro said. “I paid a fairly good amount of money for that.”
DiPietro considered skipping class, but his mother advised against it.
“I was, like, ‘We have to bring her to the emergency room,’ and she said, ‘Well, she’s fine right now.’”
Phoebe DiPietro said the injury appeared to be a bad bruise, but nothing serious. During the day, however, Phoebe DiPietro noticed the full extent of Ayla’s swelling after looking under the toddler’s sleeve.
Justin DiPietro said he left class early because he was concerned about Ayla.
“When I got home, we went to the emergency room,” he said.
From reading this I get the impression that Justin wanted to take Ayla to the hospital and he was more concerned about Ayla than his CDL class. Phoebe on the other hand seemed concerned mostly about Justin’s wrist and his missing his CDL class. It’s interesting that when the family weighed the decision, they decided to do things Phoebe’s way. What do we know about the CDL course Justin took?
CDL/Bus Driver Training
Lawrence Adult Education in Fairﬁeld is offering a driver education course leading to a Class B CDL with a school bus endorsement. To be eligible to take the course, applicants must be at least 21 years old, have a good driving record, and provide proof of good health. To register for this course, please call Lawrence Adult Education at 453-4200 x 3114 for an application package (registration form and a physical form to be completed by a doctor). Application packets are also available online at http://www.lawrenceadulted.org.
Classroom time: Tuesdays/Thursdays, 6:00-9:00 p.m., 16 sessions starting Sept. 6
Driving: Must be available on Saturdays. Some weekday and evening time may also be available.
It’s also interesting that the course in Fairfield was approximately 3.4 miles or 8 minutes from Phoebe’s house, and approximately 77.6 miles or 72 minutes from Justin’s apartment. Justin said he paid good money for the classes and we see the fee was $450.
Some of us have questioned how Justin could pay for the classes if he didn’t have a job but Selena claimed that he had one.
Selena Johnson3/19/12 4:31 PM
If Justins information about his JOB were to get out…people would see that he had a job and that he worked for a living and isnt the jobless drug dealing LIP buying no good person that people think he is. This would put him in a better light than what everyone has been portraying him as.Yes…Justin and Lance both worked…but the rumors caught on and turned into facts.Jeff just doesnt want people to know that Justin worked.They dont people to know any of the truth…just half truths.(The half that makes my family look like “low life”)…getting really sick of what people take as fact.Oh and The Trista doesnt lie thing…Jeff tells everyone she does in his blog.She lied to Justin about being pregnant. Thats a BIG lie….isnt it?Why does everyone take what they say as fact??Get the pitch forks out and light the torches.
JIG3/19/12 8:42 PM
So where was/is Justin working Selena? Not that I’m actually expecting you’d know or answer, but it’s worth a shot. How did he know that Trista would be in rehab so that he could move back to Waterville on a moment’s notice to take care of Ayla? Most people with jobs can’t just pick up and leave like that.
Answer3/20/12 12:45 PM
Trista told him she was going into rehab and they together arranged for Ayla to stay with him. He was not working at that time. As he had injured his wrist and was out of work but was going to school for his CDL license in the meantime. And has always worked before that actually as far back as elementary school when he had a paper route everyday. Trista on the other hand no job on state aid, not going to school, arsonist boyfriend,homeless, family will not let her live with them, alcoholic plus some…..
“Answer” then claimed that Justin wasn’t working due to his wrist injury which falls in line with Phoebe’s explanation of Justin’s snowboard accident.
“KM” thinks she has some straight facts and she says that Justin started moving his things in September which happens to be when the CDL classes started.
KM10/24/12 7:57 PM
Not sure who is twisting the facts here at this point because of the different names. But anyways here are some straight facts:
Connie D is not Connie M. Connie M is Phoebe’s friend. Connie D is not. Neither woman ever babysat Ayla.
Justin started moving his things in Sept. He moved into his mom’s in Oct. He only went to get a mattress he had left behind in Dec. Sept is five months before Jan. He sure was planning ahead if you are correct. Seems more likely that he was moving out because he was moving in with his mom per his agreement with Trista as she herself spoke about.
And as far as Trista’s third cousins once removed I wouldn’t know but I would not be surprised.
This is where it gets more confusing. Trista went into rehab in mid- October, not September so how could they have made this agreement a month before they knew she was going into rehab?
“Justin knew of Ayla the day I found out I was pregnant,” Trista said. “I constantly fought with Justin to be part of her life.”
Despite Trista’s desire to see Justin participate in Ayla’s life, Justin resisted, she said, until July or August. Ayla was 15 or 16 months old by then and more than six months had elapsed since Justin was ordered to pay child support. Trista said on that first visit, Justin, his mother, Phoebe DiPietro, and his sister Elisha DiPietro, with Elisha’s daughter Gabriella in tow, picked up Ayla and took her shopping with them.
Phoebe was present for the first visit with Ayla.
From the start Justin did not want Trista to have Ayla. It has been stated that he never had the chance to be there when she was born, for good reason; Justin didn’t want Trista to bring Ayla to term if “it was going to be his”. Trista told Justin that it was not his at that time because she did not want him to pressure her into an abortion. Justin was ordered by DHHS to pay back child support in December 2010 after having a paternity test, so it could be said that he did not “know” he was the father until then but it is false to say he wasn’t aware of Ayla’s existence until then.
While living in the same city Justin had a total of five visits with Ayla since December 2010, Phoebe Ayla’s paternal grandmother only visited once. On two of those visits, Ayla came home with visible bruises and Justin would only come and visit with Ayla if no one else was in Trista’s Apartment.
Here we learned that Justin got Ayla’s SS# from Trista because his mom wanted to open a “savings account” for Ayla. Trista said the account was never opened.
“Justin tricked me into giving him Ayla’s social security number. He told me that his mother [Phoebe DiPietro] needed it so she could open up a bank/savings account for Ayla. Come to find out the bank account was never opened. Instead, Justin used her social security number to get the life insurance policy on her. He also tried to claim her on his taxes this year, but said that ‘they’ wouldn’t let him.”
Derek claimed that the LIP he sold Justin was like a “savings account”. Hmmm…
Derek Tudela said he sold DiPietro the policy.
“He didn’t ask for it, I approached him about it,” he said.
DiPietro agreed. He said he switched car insurance carriers shortly after moving back to Waterville. Tudela encouraged him to add the policy at that time. The premiums for both the car and life insurance policies are paid in one monthly bill.
Tudela said the additional insurance was inexpensive, and policies like Ayla’s are intended to be a gift for a child later in life, like a savings account.
“It’s very inexpensive. I told Justin it’s the same policy I have on my son, and it’s one of the best gifts you can give (Ayla),” he said. “I would do the same thing for any one of my friends, and I have.”
Mountain Mama said,
It seems that from the time Justin had to start making child support payments, Phoebe might have been trying to control the situation. Whose idea was it to take Ayla from Jessica and Becca, Justin’s or Phoebe’s? Would Justin want to move that far away from all his friends and girlfriend? We now know that Justin still spent much of his time in Portland even though he supposedly lived in Waterville.
How would Phoebe benefit from Justin taking Ayla and moving to Waterville?
* Her son would be living in her home again and somewhat under her control.
* This would limit the amount of time her son would have had with the two women who were a part of his life, both of which Phoebe had no control over previously.
* If Phoebe was helping with the child support payments, she would’ve eliminated Justin having to make payments for the next 16-18 years.
* Phoebe knows enough about the system to be aware of all the added monetary benefits Justin would be eligible for if he had custody of Ayla, so less would be coming out of Phoebe’s pocket.
In my opinion Phoebe would have everything to gain and nothing to lose. This way she would gain some control over Justin, Ayla, Trista and Courtney.
“Justin was in the apartment when the officer handed Ayla over to him; his mom Phoebe waited in the car – and Ayla tried to bite the officer as he was handing her over to Justin. After Justin and Phoebe left with Ayla, the officer stated to Becky that: “if he had his way, he would not have let Ayla go with Justin”.”
Did Phoebe go with Justin to help with handling Ayla on the trip home or did she go to make sure that Ayla left with Justin?
We later learned from “The taking of Ayla” that Phoebe didn’t just go with Justin, she arranged the whole thing including picking Justin up in her car.
When paternal grandmother Phoebe Dipietro, and not Justin, contacted Small on October 17, she said she was on her way to Portland to “pick Justin up and then they are going to pick Ayla up.”
During that conversation, wrote Small, Phoebe “acknowledged that her son has not gone to court to establish his parental rights but they are going to be getting a lawyer and he will be going to court to do so.”
“She was requesting that I give her and Justin Jessica’s address so they can go pick Ayla up,” wrote Small of Phoebe. “I told her,” wrote Small, “that I cannot release that information to her due to confidentiality………….I let Phoebe know that we really needed to be communicating with Justin on this matter………”
Then Small records that Phoebe informs her “she works for the Maine Revenue Service….”
She also tells Small she lives in Waterville with her daughter and granddaughter and that Justin lives in Portland, but that he has told Phoebe he’s willing to move to Waterville.
Finally, again on the same day, October 17, Small documents that Phoebe calls back — and Small, for reasons she does not explain, decides to ignore the restrictions governing what DHHS can and cannot do — as she has just previously outlined to Phoebe and recorded in written notes, documentation she likely assumed would never be scrutinized publicly. Small had said she “really needed to be communicating with Justin….” But Phoebe called back, not Justin.
Small also apparently decides to ignore the report of bruises and the concern for Ayla’s safety when with her father. Informing Phoebe that the matter was a “custody dispute,” Small says the families “need to resolve the issue between themselves.” But Phoebe tells Small she’s on her way to get Justin and then they’re “going to the Lewiston PD to get assistance with picking up Ayla.”
And Small unexplainably capitulates, with Phoebe Dipietro dictating the terms, and speaking for her son, who had only days before gone on record with DHHS as being fine with leaving his daughter temporarily in the care of her maternal aunt.
* If Justin didn’t have a job, who paid his child support payments?
* If Justin didn’t have a job, who paid for his CDL course?
* If Justin didn’t have a job, who paid for his car insurance, which he would need for his CDL classes?
* Is it a coincidence that Justin started his CDL classes less than 4 miles from Phoebe’s and more than 77 miles from Justin’s within a few weeks of Phoebe’s first visit with Ayla?
* Is it a coincidence that Justin switched insurance companies for his car insurance and just happened to add a LIP that’s also considered a “savings account” for Ayla?
* Is it possible that Phoebe started making plans to take Ayla from the very first time she saw her and if so what leverage could Phoebe use to get Justin to agree?
* Is Justin employed as a CDL driver?
I have to admit that if I had been in Phoebe’s shoes, I would’ve had concerns for my granddaughter living so far away, and hearing of her mother’s substance abuse. I have friends whose sons are paying child support for their children, but not a penny is used for the kids. It all goes towards mom’s alcohol or drugs and the food card is used in trading food for cash with friends. The moms have custody and the father’s hands are tied.
I’m not saying that Trista was guilty of these things but I can understand if Phoebe had seen situations like those I’ve seen, that she would want to do what she could to insure that Ayla wasn’t living in those conditions. While I don’t agree with how Phoebe went about it, I think it’s possible she was trying to get her son to settle down and give Ayla what she thought would be a better home. If so, I wish Phoebe had been at the apartment door with Justin instead of waiting in the car. Had she seen Ayla’s reaction to Justin maybe, just maybe, Ayla would be anticipating her fourth birthday now instead of being “missing”.
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